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isPermaLink="false">http://beingthechangeiwishtosee.com/?p=1689#comment-1192</guid> <description>[...] links:Part 1: Born in the USAPart 2: Horrific DetailsPart 3: American Silence is Deafening Part 4: HIV-AIDS Statistics in UgandaPart 5: State Dept Must Make US Policy ClearPart 6: Richard Cohen and debunking gay curePart 7: [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] links:Part 1: Born in the USAPart 2: Horrific DetailsPart 3: American Silence is Deafening Part 4: HIV-AIDS Statistics in UgandaPart 5: State Dept Must Make US Policy ClearPart 6: Richard Cohen and debunking gay curePart 7: [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Amy LeForge</title><link>http://beingthechangeiwishtosee.com/1689/ugandan-kill-the-gays-bill-part-4-hiv-aids-statistics-in-uganda/comment-page-1/#comment-1104</link> <dc:creator>Amy LeForge</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 04:28:06 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://beingthechangeiwishtosee.com/?p=1689#comment-1104</guid> <description>I&#039;ve never heard of Scott Lively, but then I don&#039;t pay much attention to people who wind up at the forefront of large groups.  I don&#039;t trust &#039;em.I do question your claim about pedophiles being almost exclusively heterosexual...that&#039;s not in line with other reports I&#039;ve read over the years.  Again, this is mainly casual reading not actual study.  I would be interested in the study that provided that conclusion.The whole membership in a group issue can be difficult for people on both sides.  My church actually left its founding denomination over membership definitions (didn&#039;t have anything to do with homosexuality) so I&#039;m familiar with exactly how difficult it can get.Private groups have the right to define who can and cannot be a member.  If I set a definition of membership for my group I will by default be excluding some people.  Does that make me anti-them?  Not necessarily.I find it sad that Christians take such a rap for being anti- this or that, when so many other groups also have membership definitions that naturally exclude large numbers of people.  I can&#039;t be a member of the JayCees.  I&#039;m too old.  Can&#039;t be a Muslim.  I&#039;m Christian.  Can&#039;t be a Jew, or a Knight of Columbus, or a Veteran of Foreign Wars, or....you get the picture.  Does that make those groups anti-me?  No.  I just don&#039;t fit their definition or membership requirements.  Do I go around complaining about it?  No.  I just find groups that work for me and with me, then I live and let live.
.-= Amy LeForge&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/EarnestParenting/~3/E-aQ4yeqiNk/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;FFYF: Forgetfulness Edition&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never heard of Scott Lively, but then I don&#8217;t pay much attention to people who wind up at the forefront of large groups.  I don&#8217;t trust &#8216;em.</p><p>I do question your claim about pedophiles being almost exclusively heterosexual&#8230;that&#8217;s not in line with other reports I&#8217;ve read over the years.  Again, this is mainly casual reading not actual study.  I would be interested in the study that provided that conclusion.</p><p>The whole membership in a group issue can be difficult for people on both sides.  My church actually left its founding denomination over membership definitions (didn&#8217;t have anything to do with homosexuality) so I&#8217;m familiar with exactly how difficult it can get.</p><p>Private groups have the right to define who can and cannot be a member.  If I set a definition of membership for my group I will by default be excluding some people.  Does that make me anti-them?  Not necessarily.</p><p>I find it sad that Christians take such a rap for being anti- this or that, when so many other groups also have membership definitions that naturally exclude large numbers of people.  I can&#8217;t be a member of the JayCees.  I&#8217;m too old.  Can&#8217;t be a Muslim.  I&#8217;m Christian.  Can&#8217;t be a Jew, or a Knight of Columbus, or a Veteran of Foreign Wars, or&#8230;.you get the picture.  Does that make those groups anti-me?  No.  I just don&#8217;t fit their definition or membership requirements.  Do I go around complaining about it?  No.  I just find groups that work for me and with me, then I live and let live.<br
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isPermaLink="false">http://beingthechangeiwishtosee.com/?p=1689#comment-1096</guid> <description>Hi Amy,Thank you for your thoughts. As Jesus said, &quot;he who is without sin, cast the first stone&quot; when the town men were about to stone a woman to death for adultery.The ABC program was very successful, and now there is a lot of catching up to do to regain that success.Sometimes anyone with the power to do it, no matter their religion, behave as if they are better than others. Their sins are somehow less sinful than another person&#039;s sins.The only American Evangelical Christian directly involved with the writing of this bill was Scott Lively, and Don Schmierer was with Lively on the trip in March 2009. David Bahati finished the bill and brought it before the Ugandan Parliament. Ugandans are very homophobic and have little to no tolerance for gays.Lively has given some very hateful presentations on the evils of gays and the behaviors they engage in that are intolerable in society, like gay men are predators of boys. They are not. In almost all cases, pedophiles are heterosexual men. Lively helped draft the bill. There are both audio tapes and videos of his talks given at the March 2009 conference with this intolerant and misleading speech on them. Farther into the series, one of those videos is available. I&#039;ll try to find some more and publish them.Pastor Rick Warren was a bit slow to condemn the bill, and he did strongly condemn it. But he had nothing to do with its creation. His ministry is anti-gay. If you are gay, you cannot join his church. He was also a major supporter of Prop. 8 in California in the 2008 election. He is anti-gay, but he does not believe gays should be arrested and killed for being gay. He rightfully called the bill unjust and un-Christian.I&#039;m not sure I would call Scott Lively a mainstream Evangelical Christian.Sherri</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Amy,</p><p>Thank you for your thoughts. As Jesus said, &#8220;he who is without sin, cast the first stone&#8221; when the town men were about to stone a woman to death for adultery.</p><p>The ABC program was very successful, and now there is a lot of catching up to do to regain that success.</p><p>Sometimes anyone with the power to do it, no matter their religion, behave as if they are better than others. Their sins are somehow less sinful than another person&#8217;s sins.</p><p>The only American Evangelical Christian directly involved with the writing of this bill was Scott Lively, and Don Schmierer was with Lively on the trip in March 2009. David Bahati finished the bill and brought it before the Ugandan Parliament. Ugandans are very homophobic and have little to no tolerance for gays.</p><p>Lively has given some very hateful presentations on the evils of gays and the behaviors they engage in that are intolerable in society, like gay men are predators of boys. They are not. In almost all cases, pedophiles are heterosexual men. Lively helped draft the bill. There are both audio tapes and videos of his talks given at the March 2009 conference with this intolerant and misleading speech on them. Farther into the series, one of those videos is available. I&#8217;ll try to find some more and publish them.</p><p>Pastor Rick Warren was a bit slow to condemn the bill, and he did strongly condemn it. But he had nothing to do with its creation. His ministry is anti-gay. If you are gay, you cannot join his church. He was also a major supporter of Prop. 8 in California in the 2008 election. He is anti-gay, but he does not believe gays should be arrested and killed for being gay. He rightfully called the bill unjust and un-Christian.</p><p>I&#8217;m not sure I would call Scott Lively a mainstream Evangelical Christian.</p><p>Sherri</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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