2010 Apr 28

written by Sherri Joubert

Liz Cheney is at it again. Her new web ad about the Obama justice department and attorneys who have represented or advocated for Guantanamo detainees questions their values and loyalty to the U.S. Are they really al-Qaeda sympathizers? No, they are not. They are just doing their jobs.

Ms. Cheney is playing the “guilt-by-association” card. There is a really big problem once you go down that path, extremely twisted logic. The following clip from The Rachel Maddow Show demonstrates taking guilt-by-association to its full conclusion (7 min.). The question is where do you stop? How far down the rabbit hole do you go?

Queue the scary music:

Visit msnbc.com for breaking news, world news, and news about the economy

Be afraid!!! Are you scared?

Using Liz Cheney’s logic, aren’t all defense attorneys criminals if they defend guilty people in court? No. Our Constitution guarantees presumption of innocence until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, and the accused are entitled to a vigorous defense. What about the attorney who defended Timothy McVeigh? Is he a terrorist sympathizer, too? No.

Defending the guilty is an integral part of our justice system. It’s the American way. It’s one of our founding principals. We can’t abandon those principals because we are dealing with foreign detainees whose arrests were botched. Botched arrests happen regularly, not quite like these, but they are not new. We have the processes to deal with it.

Let’s allow the DOJ to go forward and prosecute the detainees against whom we have reasonable evidence. We know our court system is far more effective than military tribunals. Here’s the score: Federal court system: 300 convictions of terrorist suspects since 2001; military tribunal system: 2 convictions.

Even Republicans and Conservatives are saying Cheney’s ad goes too far. It steps way over the line of reason when Bill O’Reilly of Fox News won’t even agree with her. The following clip from Countdown explores the legal and moral outrage over this web ad (7 min.):

I have to hope Liz Cheney keeps up her conspiracy witch hunts in public for as long as she wants. When it makes Conservatives back away from her, it’s possible for the moderates to move left just a bit and get back to the middle where moderates like to be.

When fear-mongers start to sound like loons to those who are already ideologically extreme, they are finally being seen in the correct light.

Do you buy Liz Cheney and Keep America Safe’s bullpucky on this? If not, what other fear-mongering crap do you now question about what they have said?

If it’s a Cheney talking, I must admit I won’t believe a word of it because whatever “it” is that any of them are saying comes out of irrational fear of another terrorist attack on the U.S. Future terrorist attacks are possible, but so was nuclear war during the entire cold war. You can’t live your life in constant fear of what might happen. If we cower in fear, the terrorists win.

I wonder if the Cheney home is equipped with a fully stocked bomb shelter and survival gear…

BTW, Rachel posted bail with Kent Jones in the amount of slices of pizza, and borrowed the handcuffs from Jimmy Fallon. She was back on her show the next night.

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2009 Aug 7

written by Sherri Joubert

Let’s start with quotes from the polling sources:

A clear majority of Americans — 72 percent — support a government-sponsored health care plan to compete with private insurers, a new CBS News/New York Times poll finds. Most also think the government would do a better job than private industry at keeping down costs and believe that the government should guarantee health care for all Americans. – CBS/New York Times June 20, 2009

Polls of the general public about health care reform:

  • 90 percent of respondents to a CBS/New York Times poll of the general public earlier this year said the U.S. health care system needs to undergo fundamental change (54 percent) or be rebuilt completely (36 percent).
  • 95 percent of the public believes the fact that many Americans do not have health insurance is a very serious (70 percent) or somewhat serious (25 percent) problem, according to that same poll.
  • 84 percent of the same respondent pool said they would favor expansion of a government program that provides health insurance for some children in low- and moderate-income families in order to cover all uninsured children.
  • 85 percent of respondents to an Associated Press poll earlier this year said health care was either extremely or very important to them as an issue while 86 percent of those polled in another CNN survey around the same time agreed.
  • 76 percent of Americans either strongly support (53 percent) or somewhat support (23 percent) providing guaranteed health care coverage for every American, according to a recent Gallup poll.

Polls from spring and summer 2009.

Source: AFL-CIO Website

The polling results of many sources over many months clearly show most Americans want government health care reform and most people want all Americans to be guaranteed coverage.

That means those who are so vehemently against any health care reform bill are clearly in the minority, though they are a very noisy minority. They would have you believe they are winning the debate and they really represent the majority view. This is obviously not true, and I’ll be charitable here and call it wishful thinking on their part.

My own Senator, David Vitter, quotes the CBO report in his campaign against any health care bill, but fails to see the flaws in the way the CBO report ignores the savings of stopping the majority of the uninsured from going to emergency rooms for routine care.

Say someone with a sore throat and moderate fever who has no insurance and can’t pay goes to the emergency room for care. The average cost of an ER visit of a minor nature is about $1000. That includes being triaged by the nursing staff, taking up an ER room or bed, seeing the doctor, receiving some sort of diagnosis and minor treatment (a breathing treatment, a  shot, a single x-ray, a blood test, a nasal swab, etc), getting doctor’s orders so you can be discharged, and handed your prescriptions to take to a pharmacy to be filled. The prescription costs are in addition to the $1000. But, lets say the ER doctor has some samples and gives them to uninsured patients.

If the same someone had enough money or insurance to go to a doctor’s office for the same sore throat and moderate fever, the office visit would be about $75, the diagnostic tests would be about $30 each (say the patient  needs a throat swab for strep and a nasal swab for flu so that’s $60), and a shot as treatment can vary from $5-$50, depending on what the medication is. If you don’t have insurance or prescription drug coverage, the doctor will often give you enough samples of the medications you need for your entire course of treatment. Total cost for this visit and treatment: $185 if the shot is $50.

If you pay in full at the time of the visit, you will often get a 20%-30% discount because that’s how much dealing with the current insurance system costs the doctor. If we assume a 25% discount, that’s a $46.25 discount, so you would pay $138.75.

The figures I use are from recent personal receipts from both an ER visit for a minor injury that required an ER visit excluding treatment for the injury and a doctor visit for a respiratory illness. Costs will vary with market.

Not only is going to an emergency room for non-emergency care expensive, it takes up resources that need to be available for people having a real emergency.

Seven people can be treated in a doctor’s office for the same cost of treating one person in the emergency room.

Who pays the $1000 instead of about $139? Everyone who has insurance or who pays cash. The cost of those uninsured people who can’t pay gets distributed throughout the total cost of each procedure performed in the emergency room. Total cost of procedure/total procedures paid for gives the average cost of a single procedure. If the bill can be reduced by $861 per uninsured patient, medical costs and insurance premiums will go down.

If the cost doesn’t go down, it will be because either the providers or the insurance companies (or both) are taking extra profits. Preventing profit-taking requires laws to control it, and sufficient competition to keep rates reasonable. Competition can be inserted by a public option or non-profit option, or an insurance exchange where companies have to outbid each other to get business.

Insurance regulations must become national rather than dictated by the states so insurers have to compete with every company in the nation, not just those who operate in a few states. State regulations for health insurance must be removed.

If the costs are compared and the fact that those who pay insurance premiums or pay cash already pay for those who can’t at far higher rates than they should have to, why is anyone against insuring everyone and reducing costs? For $860 per visit, that money could pay for a heck of a lot of monthly insurance premiums or about 7 doctor visits per single ER visit.

Think about it.

The United States spends nearly $100 billion per year to provide uninsured residents with health services, often for preventable diseases or diseases that physicians could treat more efficiently with earlier diagnosis. — Institute of Medicine. Hidden Costs, Values Lost: Uninsurance in America. The National Academies Press. 17 June 2003  http://www.iom.edu/Report.asp?id=12313.

Also think about catching and treating illnesses earlier and having better outcomes for every American. We pay the most money of any industrialized nation for health care and our outcomes are worse than most other industrialized nations. Add calculations for improved productivity and less missed work and missed school. That’s a lot of money we could recover.

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